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Sarah just got back from Hawaii where she did fuck all (plus a couple of shows of her postmortem tour). She also reflects on and hears from a caller who is estranged from her brother and another who is seeking a therapist as good as Sarah.

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Transcript

SPEAKERS

Amy, Sender 2, Michelle, Sender 3, Janet, Ted, Deb, Sarah Silverman

Sarah Silverman  00:01

Hi everyone, it’s your old pal Sarah, and guess what? I went to Hawaii and I had a vacation. I did two shows. Rory had a week off from Kimmel. We did two shows. He opened for me, one on in on in Honolulu. On Honolulu, I don’t know how you say it.

 

Amy  01:19

In Honolulu.

 

Sarah Silverman  01:20

Yeah, and on Oahu, I’m bright in so many ways, and the other in Maui and and then we stayed in Maui for three days for vacation, and we did fuck all, and it was great. We didn’t see sites, we didn’t climb a volcano, we went to the pool, we walked on the beach, and we just stayed in our room a lot, and I don’t regret it at all. It was really nice. Anyway, as soon as you get off the plane, the air is different. It’s like the air just it feels so clean in your lungs, and it’s so warm, but it’s not oppressive, but it’s it’s just the air is different. And we were talking about it, and then we were just like, wow, it’s like, it doesn’t feel like part of the United States at all. And you know, of course, before it was part of the United States, it was its own sovereign nation, country, but it just that we were like, God, it’s so crazy to think this is a state in the United States. Like, it’s just so like, chill and cool and lovely and beautiful and and then we got picked up by a woman who was driving us from the hotel to the venue to do the show. And you know, we’re talking to her, and you know, whatever, I’m making conversation. And I oh, it’s so beautiful here the air. It’s different. And I said, even the license plates, like, I love the rainbow on the license plate. And she goes, yeah, well, the LGBTs tried to take it away from us, and then I thought, uh oh, yeah, no, we’re in America. All right, let’s take some calls.

 

Michelle  03:26

Hey, Sarah, it’s your best friend, Michelle. I would love your advice in managing an estranged relationship I have with my brother now that he is re entering the fold, he stopped speaking to me and my parents in March, he has a lot of diagnoses, and it’s been a pretty hard six years for him, really struggling with his mental health and suicidality. He recently ended his marriage. He is always in more and more and more debt, and since he ended his marriage, he’s had some unfortunately abusive relationships with people we told him to avoid, not that it’s his fault. It just seemed obvious from the outside that this it was going to end in disaster, and it did. Anyway, he stopped speaking to us in March, and then last week, we had my grandma’s 95th birthday party, and he came four hours late, but he came, he talked to my parents and my other family members like he hasn’t been giving us the silent treatment for a year. For me, he said hello and goodbye, but didn’t want to engage with me besides that. And I tried to ask him, like, hi, I haven’t talked to you in almost a year. And he said he didn’t want to talk about it and avoided me. Now he’s responding again on the family text chain, and I find myself feeling really angry I wasn’t expecting to I’ve been really sad for a long time that he shut me out of his life, but now I have all this anger that I’m being punished for something I don’t know that I did. What would you do if you were me? Do? I just. Just pretend like it didn’t happen, because that’s what my parents are doing. Or do I take a pause on him? Because it’s painful for me not to know what I did and not to know that I can rely on him as to have a, you know, brother sister relationship? What should I do? Thanks, Sarah.

 

Sarah Silverman  05:16

Oh, I’m sorry to hear that look on one hand, how he runs his life and who he does and doesn’t talk to is a little bit kind of, not your circus, not your monkey, I think is the saying. But on the other hand, you know, of course, it feels personal, and it perhaps is personal, before you decide what if anything to do about it, think about what you really, actually want is being active in his life. Does that appeal to you actually, really or is it possible that if he were, if he wasn’t the instigator of this space between you, would you possibly want space between you? Just in your description, it sounds like there’s a lot going on there, and a lot he’s dealing with not dealing with surviving through, you know, I the only reason I say that is, and here’s a bad example, but I was thinking about this not long ago, which is I, there was a guy who I was maybe gonna date. I was single, and I was kind of, I met him, and I we exchanged numbers, and I thought it was interesting. And he I was in New York City. It was like the summer, I remember this, and he was at some event that I was not invited to, and I was doing stand up at the cellar. And afterwards, he’s like, well, maybe when this is over, we can meet up. And I was like, Sure. And then I started walking to the address he had given me, which was, like, way on the west side. And I’m I love walking at night in New York in the summer, especially, you know, and I’m walking and walking and walking and I’m like, almost there, and I get a text from him saying, like, Oh, it’s so late. I’m gonna bail. I’m just gonna go back. And I was so fucking pissed. And I’m thinking about what to write back, and, you know, and then all of a sudden it dawned on me that, um, if I’m being honest with myself, I am thrilled at the thought of him bailing, and that I now get to walk across town to the east side, to my hotel and get all those steps in and which I is just my favorite thing to do in New York is just walk and walk and get to my room and order in and watch TV. There’s nothing I wanted to do more than that, and he was giving me that opportunity. But because it affected my ego, I was pissed. But as soon as I realized that, I was like, oh, what a gift. Here I go boom, smoked a joint, had a little power walk, late night power walk. Love it. So listen, he’s your brother, and that may not be the case, but sometimes it is the case, I think, from hearing you, from listening to you, and I couldn’t be wrong that you seeing this as him punishing you. May not be what his reality is. Chances are he’s just surviving, and this is what he needs to do right now to get by. Whether that’s healthy for him, not healthy for him again, not your monkey, not your circus, or however you say that, if he is punishing you for some reason, then be grateful that he is taking this time away. I think you don’t have to pretend nothing’s wrong like your parents are doing, though, this is probably how they are just surviving this pain. But you can just give it space and time. You know it’s seems to be what he’s asking for. He’s obviously going through changes, hopefully for the better. I don’t know, you know you said, I don’t know if you said addiction. I know you said more and more in debt. And you know debt is often its own addiction. Um, if it is killing you and you just need to know, look, maybe email him or write him a note asking if there is something you did, and if so, what, and is there any way you can make it right, and don’t expect a response, and if you get a response, you know you asked, and he’s answering. So I. Yeah, chances are this is not about you, it’s about him, right? And just maybe give him time, maybe write him off. I don’t know, whatever you need to do, maybe some combination of both. I don’t know, even if the truth is that he’s, you know, projecting some shit onto you that is in reality, has nothing to do with you. There is not anything for you to do about it. He will either realize that eventually and come back to you, or he won’t. And still, that’s not your problem. It’s a loss, maybe, sure, but you know, life is long if you let it and give them, give them this space. You know this is this happens in families sometimes and and just really try to live your best life and focus on your happiness, because that’s something you can control, and you can’t control him. All right, good luck.

 

Sender 2  16:01

Holy cow, Sarah Silverman, I’ve been watching for years. Just started listening to the podcast because I caught your post mortem show in Medford, Massachusetts. I had just lost my parents within seven weeks of each other. You took your craft to a whole nother level, but beyond all that serious admiration lies a burning question. I’m listening to the podcast and see that Ben Folds recorded your theme, and I recently attended a Ben Folds concert recorded for posterity with the National Symphony Orchestra and people sitting next to me in the front row were talking and filming the thing in its entirety. And this happens more often than not. You are a common sense. No bullshit woman. What do you do? What is the one magic thing to say? What works to stop people from being rude idiots during a public performance? Do you have a magic bullet? Do you turn to them and get angry? Do you pleasantly say, would you please stop what is the thing that Sarah Silverman would do to stop absolutely rude behavior during a show.

 

Sarah Silverman  17:23

I’ve done all of those things. Um, first of all, I would say that my audience is pretty great. So is Ben’s, though, and there’s always going to be people that just so for for years, I would get on an off stage mic before I’d come out, and I’d say, Okay, we’re gonna start. Usually I play a song, like a pretender song or something, and I go and in that time, you can get your shit together. Power down your phones. Please just turn them off. Let’s have an experience. You can have your phone off for an hour, you know. And I would say, do not be an empty vessel through which Facebook expresses itself like, you know, it’s like people who take pictures of fireworks like you’re never gonna look at that picture again. But what you have done is taking away the memory of just experiencing something. You’re filming it, you’re never going to watch it. If you want to see amazing photographs of fireworks, Google them. You know it really wasn’t about like, at first, maybe it was like, Don’t video me, because I’m working on material I don’t want out there, and I realized very quickly that, like, even if they video me, nobody’s looking at your Facebook page, your Instagram page, of the average person, you know. But it is like comedy is a process. You don’t want people videotaping, you know. But what made it sometimes worse is if I made that announcement, and then I go out and I see people with their cameras anyway. That is a particular kind of It hurts my feelings, because you heard me ask you not to, and you had to do it anyway. And there’s something very historical for me, because that was my mother. My mother would ignore me by taking pictures of me, because I would beg her to stop. It’s like, it’s like paparazzi, you know? It’s like you’re being ignored while you’re the center of attention is you’re, you know, I would say, Mom, please, please stop. And she wouldn’t. And it was so violating, and it was just a weird way of being ignored while being paid attention to, you know, and it hurt deeply. So when I would go on stage after making that announcement, and people would still with their phones, it really, it bummed me out deeply, and it made me angry, and sometimes I would say something. After a while, I got very desensitized to it, and I just didn’t care, and I would ignore it. Now, we take the phones and they go in yonder pouches. It takes a little longer the show inevitably starts 15 minutes late because people aren’t expecting that. They have to, and they, they get these pouches, Chappelle started this, I think, these yonder brand pouches, and the phone gets put in it and locked, and then you have your phone, but it’s in a pouch, and then you have to get it unlocked. And that’s made it great. And, you know, it’s a really interesting I remember somebody from who was working at the merch table, or who was in the lobby or something, said, you know, all these people get their phones put in pouches, and then you see them in the lobby not knowing where to put their eyes or do with their hands. They are suddenly back in time where you have to talk to strangers or relate to people or sit quietly or have a conversation, and it’s kind of amazing, but the shows are great. You know, no one’s distracted, no one’s frustratingly feeling like they have to have evidence of that they were there. Just be in the moment. All we have is this moment. Don’t ignore it by being this empty vessel that Instagram ex, you know, through which Instagram expresses itself, it’s no one’s gonna love you more because you’re at this concert or this place. It’s a takes from you and the quality of your life and the experiences you have. That said, I’m trying to take more pictures, because I never think to take pictures with friends and with Rory and stuff. But there’s a there’s a happy medium, of course. All right, what else?

 

Sender 3  22:10

Hi, Sarah, I’m calling. I know I only have a short amount of time, but I’m calling because I have been dealing with really severe anxiety, something that I have been dealing with for a good portion of my life. But recently, I found out that my company that I love is closing down, and I’m anticipating being laid off. And although I know I have a huge support system and a lot of things out there to help me, I just I feel debilitated like I can’t do basic tasks, it’s hard for me to even drive, yep, it’s hard for me to even just be independent and go outside. And again, although I have a lot of tools at my disposal and I’m starting therapy again next week, which I’m very excited about. I have not been able to get a handle on this lately, and so I’m calling because I wanted to, you know, hopefully hear from you, what are some of the things that you do to deal with anxiety? I really trust a lot of your advice, and I’d love to hear you know some of the tools that you have at your disposal. Thank you so much. Look forward to your show.

 

Sarah Silverman  23:28

Myriad tools. Yes, um, I’m hearing anxiety and depression, which are two very different things that often go hand in hand. You know a therapist, as therapists explain it, anxiety is thinking about the future, worrying about something in the future. That’s anxiety, toiling about the past, going over and over again, things in the past, that’s depression. And what is the solution, living in the moment, which is a practice that none of us you mostly have excelled at or have nailed down, but it’s a practice. So one thing just using your own mind as a tool is to ask yourself, and I said this on another call about another thing, am I okay right now, in this moment, not tomorrow, not earlier today, This moment right now, am I okay? And chances are, you are another thing we were just talking about during our P break, confirmation bias there, and I’ve talked about it on the podcast before, right when I learned about it, which is we know about confirmation bias. Whatever you believe, you can substantiate it. You can find any. Something on the web or whatever. But our brain also engages in confirmation bias. Whether it’s negative or positive. We can set it to be positive when you this sounds like, woo, woo, shit and it but it’s not. It’s brain science, otherwise called neuroscience, I believe. But it’s if you say, this is going to be a great day, I am so lucky. Everything works out for me, your brain. And even if it doesn’t it, something else comes out of it that was in what was meant to be. I am so lucky. Things just work out. Or if you say, God has a plan, or any of those kind of, quote, unquote, positive thinking things, your brain immediately goes to work confirming that is true. And everything it sees, it sees things that it wouldn’t normally see, confirms that, if you’re negative, nothing goes my way. Everything always goes wrong for me, you will be able to find proof of that. Your brain immediately goes to work finding proof of that. So being positive isn’t just some LA, woo, woo, surfer bullshit. It is actually high frequency stuff, and it’s something that you can practice, and nothing necessarily changes outside of you, although scientists have said it does it you attract positivity when you’re positive, you attract negativity when you’re negative, and That’s like a law of physics or some shit. But also, besides being positive and saying, you know, listen, I’ve had stand up shows where I have to tour and do an hour, and I don’t have that hour yet, and there have been years before, the past two specials I did where or the past, last two tours I did where I go. How am I gonna fucking do this? How am I can do this? I’m gonna, how am I gonna get this done by this date where I have to have an hour of material and I spend the next months up until the tour panicked and miserable and terrorizing myself. And the last two tours, I also didn’t have my hour. When I started, I said, I don’t know how it gets done, but I know it gets done and it will happen. Worst thing that happens is what I don’t it doesn’t happen. I don’t have the full hour, but I know from history that I will, so I’m not going to stress about it. And guess what? I had more than an hour, and I didn’t worry or stress or cause tourists in my body. What, what a revelation, what happiness and joy I was able to preserve by making that choice, you know, by going, it’s gonna get done. I remember we did Stupid Pet Tricks. I remember sitting and going, we have nothing. We have zero scripts. And by May we have or by whenever, you know that’s May, we will have written, shot and edited 10 episodes. And I cannot imagine that happening, but I know that it will, and it did, so you can spend all your rest time that that fills up all of your moments of rest. When you’re allowed to relax you, it gets filled with those stresses and anxieties. And then what happens to the your this time of rest, it’s not restful, and you’re more exhausted than ever. And now you’re back, you know, in in non rest mode, where you have to do things, what a waste, what an utter waste. So, so all of that that I said, here’s another side of this answer. If you are dealing with paralyzing anxiety and depression, have you looked into talking to a psychiatrist and maybe going on meds? I’m so lucky. I took Zoloft starting in 94 and it was just the ticket, and the only change is when I hit menopause, I went from 50 milligrams to 100 milligrams, but it has been the perfect fit for me, and I feel so lucky, because it’s really important. Listen, you drive 10 different cars before you pick a car you’re gonna buy. This is your life. This is your happiness. This is your health. Meet with a psychiatrist. Try an anti anxiety med. You have to give it a certain amount of weeks to see if it works for you. You also have to be listening to your body, which we’re not used to doing and noticing our body and our mind to go, I’ve really been feeling, no, I’ve been less, you know, it all of that is so important, and it’s important whether you’re on meds or not, but when you’re trying meds, it’s important. So look at that. You’re gaining two more really, really valuable life skills by virtue of trying this, and if it doesn’t work for you, you go off it. You try another thing, you try until you find the fit. I’m not saying medicine is the answer, but what I found it has to go coincide with therapy. And there’s a lot of really affordable therapy out there now, it has to coincide with talk therapy because it’s not a magic pill, but it can get you to a place where you are able to then use your cognitive therapy to figure the historical stuff out, the stuff that’s triggering this anxiety, the stuff you know, it’s like, I have a night guard be like so many people, because I am gnashing my teeth while I sleep. This is kind of a new phenomenon. There’s a reason why so many Americans are gnashing, are splitting their teeth into in their subconscious state. So yeah, wear a night guard. But it might be great to also be investigating what it is in life, in our world, in the macro and micro versions of our life that is causing this, and in that same way, meds, like for me, Zoloft is a great companion with therapy, because I’m I am able, you know, there are a lot of people that go I would, never do meds because I need to be in control. Well, if you are not in control of your life in these ways, meds help you be in control. For me, what Zoloft did for me was it gave me my life back. It enabled me to be myself and not be in a paralyzed state of worry and anxiety where, just like you said, just doing my laundry, brushing my teeth, walking outside and doing everyday, things were so daunting to me, because I would spiral into so I do my laundry and then I have clean clothes until they’re not clean again, and then I have to do laundry again, and this will be something I can never just take care of forever. It will always come back and saying that now doesn’t daunt me at all, like, yeah, that’s you know, you keep your you do your dishes, and you wash your clothes and you but those everyday things when you’re in panic are paralyzing. It’s kind of like just in everyday life when you’re fine, how, when I have a million things to do, I get a billion things done. When I have nothing to do, I can’t even like load the dishwasher, you know? So some of it human nature. But if you are debilitated, if you are paralyzed with this anxiety, if your anxiety, your dread, your depression, any of those things are dictating your life, the right meds could be that thing that lifts that from you so you are able to be in control. You’re able to be yourself. You’re able to walk out the door and have a normal day without it being absolutely debilitating, just the thought of it. Good luck. Let me know how it goes. Okay, doll.

 

Deb  34:35

Hi Sarah, it’s your best friend, Deb in New York City, who is also 54 and age us. I recently went to a queer stand up comedy show in the city, and one of the younger comedians casually used in a joke a really offensive slur about Jews that I cannot even bring myself to say out loud. So let’s just say it’s a four letter word that starts with a K. No, they clearly weren’t trying to offend anyone, and probably just didn’t know how upsetting that word is for Jews. I have heard my fair share of anti Semitic language in my life, but no one has ever actually said that word in my presence, so I was shocked. I don’t think this person can ever have a successful stand up comedy career. If that word is in their act, don’t be so tempted to contact them privately and gently explain. I know you didn’t mean to offend anyone, and you might not know that that word is the kind of word where I think you won’t ever want video of you, of you using it casually in your act to circulate. And so I wanted to tell you, in the spirit of supporting a young comedian that you should not use that word in your stand up. So my question to you, Sarah is, do you think I should do that? Is that a supportive thing to do in the world of stand up? Love you, thanks, Sarah, bye.

 

Sarah Silverman  39:14

I don’t know what the right answer is. I really would need to hear the joke, because I actually do think context matters. And as someone who, in whole other different time used derogatory words consciously in jokes about the words, you know, and I would not today, but I did at that time, and it was my intentions were not devious, but we live in a different time. Of course, that said, I don’t know if this person’s Jewish, I can’t imagine that they I don’t think Kike trigger warning that anyone would if you know that word, you only know it as you know the derogatory word for Jew. I mean, I don’t. I don’t know anyone who knows that word in any other way. I don’t, right. I mean, um, I don’t know that that comedian was using that, not knowing it’s not a derogatory word about Jews. So if that were really the case, and you’re really helping them and they, you think they’ll be like, oh, really, oh, okay, I guess sure that’s your choice. I mean, it’s a tricky thing to tell comedians what they should and shouldn’t say that said, like, I obviously, like, if I say a joke and someone goes, you know, so and so has a similar joke. Um, I’m really grateful because then I dropped the joke. I had a joke, the one about um, diarrhea and Frank, I did it, and I was Todd Berry was opening for me, and he’s like, somebody has that, someone he, I can’t remember who he said, someone has a similar thing. And great, dropped it, thank you. Oh, my God, it’s like my biggest fear. But looks, I think when someone says that K word, they know what they’re doing, and that’s a choice they’re making. But if you really think you’re saving her from herself, and you think she’ll be grateful for that, go for it. I don’t know. I don’t have a good I don’t have a I’m not clear on how to answer it, because comedy is so subjective A and B. You know, there’s always a way to use any word in a brilliant way. I don’t know that this comedian is or not. I don’t know.  So sorry, that was a real non answer. But there you go, what else?

 

Ted  42:19

Hey, Sarah. This is your best friend, Ted. I am trying to find a new therapist. I’ve been trying the past couple of years, and I just run into people that are they’re just validating me. They’re not challenging my way of thinking. My first therapist was, was really, really good at that, but he retired over COVID, and I’ve tried two more, and yeah, I like, I like being told that I’m right, but I know I’m not always right, and your podcast is a hell of a lot more therapeutic than than these therapists that I’m going to see. So how do I find a really good therapist that is kind of like you or kind of like your therapist […] any advice product of my therapy that would take insurance my insurance website sucks, though. So yeah, I have no idea how to find a good therapist. Thanks, bye.

 

Sarah Silverman  43:25

I will tell you what I did to find my therapist that I love […] find people you respect who seem to run their lives well and are vulnerable and have their shit together and ask them if they see a therapist, or if they have seen a therapist that they like, and get you know three or four references if you have that many people in your life that hopefully that are seeing therapists, or have seen therapists that they got a lot out of, or they learned a lot from, collect, you know, three or four names, make appointments with them, and go to all of them and see who you connect with. This is important stuff, and it’s a pain in the ass, and it may take many weeks or months or whatever, but it’s worth it. It’s so fucking worth it, and you’re so right, you know? I mean, I think there are people that go to therapy their whole lives, and they bring their best selves to therapy, and that doesn’t help anything. You have to bring the problems, the things that you aren’t haven’t figured out, the things that you’re not doing right, and you have to be able to reveal that and talk about that with a therapist. You know, you can spend your whole hour talking about the stuff you’re killing it at and they’ll go, that’s great. Yeah, that was that was them. That wasn’t you. Yeah, have to bring this, the ugly stuff there, you know, and I’m not saying you’re not doing that. And maybe you just have yes, and therapist, my therapist, by the way, does not judge. He will not judge you. You could say, I did XYZ, and it’s like, super shitty thing. He doesn’t judge. He just offers information and perspectives of great thinkers or people who in this field or and you get there yourself, but he brings you there. But some people like to have therapists that are like, stop right there. You’re not doing it right you blah, blah, blah. You know, some people really love that kind of like therapist, and it’s really down to what you respond to and what works for you, period. And good luck, what else?

 

Janet  46:02

Hey, Sarah. This is Janet in Olympia, Washington, and I’ve had a boyfriend for a couple of years, and we’re very much in love. And he’s in his mid 40s, and I’m in my mid 40s, and he has pretty coffee stained teeth, and he’s super handsome and amazing, but I’ve noticed during photos, he doesn’t show his teeth when he smells, so I think he might feel a little bit of shame around his teeth, and I just don’t know how to bring it up, like, should I bring it up or should I just let it be he’s a grown man. He can take care of his teeth, but I have heard of these teeth whiteners, so I was wondering if I should just get him some or just bring it up gently. Thanks for your thoughts.

 

Sarah Silverman  46:45

Yeah, that’s interesting, because I think it’s hard to find a way to bring it up that doesn’t sound like it bothers you. You know, even if you go, I noticed that you it still might, he still might internalize it as something that bothers you, because it what I’m hearing from you is that it’s something that he’s self conscious of and doesn’t talk about. Maybe you buy these whitening strips for yourself and see if he wants to. I just bought, I just completely got suckered into an ad I kept seeing on Instagram called Snow. I think they’re like these purple teeth whitening strips. And the thing is that it’s like, it doesn’t hurt sensitive teeth, because I’ve never been able to do teeth whitening because my teeth are too sensitive. And when I did try, it was extremely painful subsequently. So I just tried this once, and it’s really weird. It like sticks to your gums. It’s a little uncomfortable, but I’m gonna try it again, and it tastes like nothing, and it’s purple, and it just dissolves on your teeth in like, 15 minutes, and then that’s it. And supposedly it really whitens your teeth. And my guess is maybe it’s there is a little part of you that, even if it’s just because you want him to feel good about himself, you just get it for yourself. Maybe you’d like to see if your teeth, if it will work on your teeth, and see if he wants to do it with you, you know. And then you might learn something. You might he might go, oh, I can’t do that because my teeth have a XYZ, something that you’ve never talked about, that you didn’t know. You know, but there are some people have darker teeth or sand teeth that aren’t it’s like for some reason that you know you might not know, but this would be a good way to find out without making him feel like it’s something you’re focusing on. I don’t know. The truth is, I find this sounds corny and like it couldn’t be true, but I really do find, like, every smile to be fucking beautiful. They’re just the smiles are beautiful. Everybody looks good in a smile. I think just by virtue of how they occur, happiness, you know, like it’s, I don’t know, I think everyone looks good with a smile. I also, I guess, because confidence is sexy. I mean, God, I was totally painfully in love as a teenager with a dude with straight up dark gray teeth, because he was so smart and funny and so confident. So I don’t know what my point is, but I’m gonna stop there, because I don’t have any more to say. Good luck, let me know if what happens.

 

Sarah Silverman  49:39

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