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Sarah has some thoughts on why AI should replace CEOs. She also gives us an update on the couch porn guy and gets some advice from a caller who suggests how her control center might help her with her misophonia. Later, she shares a song by her favorite writer in the whole world.

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Transcript

SPEAKERS

Steven, Amy, Sarah Silverman, Lisa, Speaker 1, Sarah, Sybil, Susan, James, Sender 4, Sam, MJ, Eric

Sarah Silverman  01:02

Hi, everybody, it’s your old pal, Sarah. Here’s something for the gang I’m looking at through this window. I know this must be a dumb, a really dumb thing to observe, but as I’m watching, like so many jobs be replaced by AI, and obviously in the medical world, what a mitzvah for AI to be able to help in medicine. But I’m seeing it take over all these jobs within the arts, and all these jobs of people who really depend on their job to work. And I know we can’t stop technology. We have to just find a way, you know. But you know, AI never seems to displace the CEOs. And I know I’m saying it like it’s a really smart notion and it’s probably really dumb, but it’s not like a CEO’s job is so hard. I don’t think, right, I don’t know. I bet AI could be designed to be the perfect CEO to make the most knowledgeable decisions with all of the information that exists. Why aren’t they being replaced? Any thoughts from the peanut gallery? Charles, Isabella, Amy, Tess, nothing.

 

Amy  02:26

So I was reading, I know that this news came out maybe a few weeks ago, but where it was an AI personal assistant calling an AI personal assistant, and then they realized they were both AI, and so they’re like, Oh, well, should we switch to our gibberish language? And then they did, and it was like nobody knew what they were talking about. So that was the story that I had heard, like, several weeks ago.

 

Sarah Silverman  02:53

Yeah, I remember reading that months ago, where they put two robots in a room, and within five minutes, they were speaking their own language.

 

Amy  02:59

So the most recent thing I read was that that that happened, and that they were trying to figure out how to kill off humanity.

 

Sarah Silverman  03:10

And take over the world. Oh yeah.

 

Amy  03:13

I mean it that happened in like an hour.

 

Sarah Silverman  03:16

I feel like that was basically like the notion of Planet of the Apes, in a way, like, I feel like this has been a notion since the 60s, and it’s absolutely going to come true. And also, my theory that humanity’s purpose is just to make machine have the, you know, mechanical tech age and go extinct. We think we have these grand purposes, but we’re like squirrels who don’t know that our whole reason that we’re hoarding nuts and hiding nuts and then can only find 10% of the nuts we hide, is to plant trees. I don’t think we’re any different.

 

Amy  03:59

I feel like these ideas wouldn’t be coming up unless they already occurred. I keep also maybe it’s my new algorithm, but I keep getting served this whole notion that we’re in a simulation and we can prove it, yeah, and I feel like.

 

Sarah Silverman  04:15

I don’t know what to believe. I mean, listen, the campaigns of misinformation that have made us question what’s true, and now we don’t know what’s true at all is so fucked up, but I don’t know it’s we live in a time where anything’s possible, nothing, everything is to be questioned. I mean, our belief system is is not based in facts anymore. We just don’t there’s no baseline truth. I’ve said nothing that’s going to help anyone, but let’s take some calls.

 

Susan  04:15

Hi, Sarah, this is Susan from New York, long time fan. Then this is my first call. I just listened to your April 3 podcast where you start off talking about your control center and how that is something that you are able to access after a puff that has helped you overcome challenges when you’re hiking, like when you feel tired and being able to push through. And then the second segment was about your challenges with misophonia. And something just kind of clicked in my head like, Hey, I wonder if you have ever tried to access your control center to help you get through triggers with sounds and well, I just want to say that I don’t have misophonia, so I really have no idea what it’s like. I can only imagine, and I really feel for you, but I do believe that your control center is something that you can access at any time, whether you are under the influence of a puff or not, it’s just whether or not you have the right tools to help get you there. And maybe you already utilize meditation in your life, I don’t know, but that might be something that can help you get to a place where you can access your control center to maybe help you get through your triggers from certain sounds. And I’m wondering, have you ever tried that, or have you ever thought about that? I love you. Thank you.

 

Sarah Silverman  06:39

That’s a that’s really smart. And, yeah, the control center thing, it always occurs to me when I’m a little high like, oh my god, I’m just, I’m operating, I’m in my brain, operating on the, you know, the, what’s the deck called in Star Trek, the mission command, yeah, like, I’m in mission command, and I’m like, moving my legs, moving my arms, you know? And that always occurs to me when I’m stoned, but you’re right, I can access the Control Center, quote, unquote, when I’m not high as well. But yeah, I did want to make an addendum to that control center thing, because I do find that I can completely access it sober, but it always occurs to me when I’m stoned, um, as for misophonia? I’m sure you’re probably right, um, but I would guess the better time to use it, it would be before I’m triggered by sounds, because for me, anyway, I get, I get the misophonia when there is any stress in my body, which, of course, is fairly often. So what I’ve been working on is going straight to the feeling of stress when it happens, and trying to sit with it and and go to where the feeling is in my body, and it’s really been helping, you know, um, and then I can sit with that uncomfortable feeling, and it really seems to dissipate. It like go to the physical feeling, where I’m feeling that, that stress, that tinge, that Oh, and sit with it, wonder about it, be with it, you know, hold my own hand through it, and it seems to kind of dissipate. And then I’m less triggered by sounds, you know, but when I’m in it, it’s very hard to get out, other than taking myself out of the situation. But thanks for calling you’re smart, and that’s going to be in the back of my head for a while, in a good way, in a good way. Thank you. All right, what else?

 

Sam  08:56

Hey, Sarah, it’s your boy, Sam from the UP. I just wanted to ask you a question about how to reconcile certain humorous perspective amidst grief. I had to get my refrigerator fixed recently. And eventually, a man from Azerbaijan, a a worker here, came by to fix our fridge, and he fixed something called the solenoid, which I don’t even know what that that is, but in the middle of his service to our appliance, he got a phone call to which he suddenly broke down in horrible, horrible tears, and it was quite clear that he was grief stricken. And I brought him some tissues, I brought him water, and I’m trying to think of how to be a decent human being. At this point in time, he is just completely beside himself. And then my 11 year old son shows up from school, and I kind of stopped him from walking the kitchen. And my my son goes, Dad, could you come here? I said, yeah. He said, who’s the man crying in our kitchen? And I said, he’s here to fix the fridge. And, long story short. I told my mom about this, and she said, maybe my son thought the guy just couldn’t figure out how to fix the fridge, and all of a sudden it just became the funniest fucking thing I can think of. And it’s not because obviously the grief, and I put myself in his shoes, but where do you reconcile that difference between the grief and the humor of another perspective on that?

 

Sarah Silverman  10:20

Well, yeah, it’s totally fine to laugh about that stuff. I mean, maybe not at him or in front of him, unless he can, like, partake in what you’re laughing about. But it’s beautiful, you know. But yeah, fucking laughing at the darkest shit is beautiful. That’s, it’s not just survival, which it also is, but it’s, you know, it’s, it’s a great release valve, sure, totally. This stuff isn’t black and white, you know, the darkest times yields the best comedy. Here’s an example, here’s an example, here’s an example. I don’t know someone else fill that in. But, you know, sure, and you know, a lot of cultures that were the biggest in comedy are cultures that came from terrible, uh oh, God, I my brain is trauma. Yes, totally, right.

 

Amy  11:17

Look at, look at the post mortem show.

 

Sarah Silverman  11:20

Yes.

 

Amy  11:21

The bed wetter.

 

Sarah Silverman  11:22

Like I’m totally entrenched in it. So it just feels very obvious, you know, but of course, you know? I mean, I think of that movie, life is beautiful, you know. Or like people who come from trauma, culturally or personally, all comedians become funny as a means of surviving their childhood. So it’s, it feels like old news to me, but, of course, it’s not necessarily. But this is all humans learn survival skills, ways of surviving their their childhood in certain situations. And for comedians, it’s being funny. But for all people, finding a way to laugh at the most dire situations is, I believe, very healthy. I mean, there are some comics that could definitely use some therapy, and they’re terrified that if they get well, they’ll not be funny anymore. And I mean, I may be that an example that that’s not true, or an example that that’s true, depending on who you ask, but, um, it’s worth it, what else?

 

Eric  12:39

Hi, Sarah. This is Eric from South Carolina. I used to be a hospice companion and vigil watcher in Oregon, before moving back here to South Carolina to take care of my parents their golden days, men, I had the privilege to attend your show front row in Charleston, and after the show, I was hoping for a selfie. I was looking at my phone. I looked up and saw your Red Hat pop into a car. So I went back to looking at my phone a little disheartened. And a few seconds later, I hear Hey, and I look up and I see you about 15 feet away, and my jaw just drops and you said, oh, does someone need a hug? And all I could muster was uh huh, while nodding my head, but I want to thank you for taking the time you’re so generous to get out of the car, come over, offer a hug and chat with me. Anyway, you are very compassionate, empathetic, and I wonder if you’ve ever considered being a hospice companion or your listeners, it’s very rewarding.

 

Sarah Silverman  14:10

I, hi, by the way, and I’m so glad that happened and you had that experience. I you know, Charleston, South Carolina, that show is really special to me, because it was days after the election, and I didn’t know what I was doing on the road, and had months of road in front of me, and my very next place with South Carolina, where I had never been, And I was had anxiety about it, and it was really great. And I learned a lot about people everywhere, and expectation not meeting results and and I really loved. Charleston the town so much, and Amy was with me. We it was really special. And I actually bumped into a guy who was like, I’m Stephen Colbert’s nephew. And I was like, oh yeah, he’s from here. Um, anyway, there are amazing people in amazing communities everywhere. And that was a lesson I learned, and I was happy to give you a hug. Boy, hugs do a lot. Rory and I have been hugging a lot lately. Like you want to hug, yeah, it’s just, it’s, I think, actually been proven to be healing, genuinely healing. Emotionally, I’ve never thought about being a hospice companion, only because I’ve never thought about doing anything other than what I do all the odd jobs I do, but I can only imagine how rewarding it is, and I think I would enjoy something like that, and maybe in another lifetime or another chapter, but it’s really interesting to hear about it, of course, only sounds heartbreaking, but having done it with my parents, and obviously that’s a different situation, it was very meaningful, and thanks for calling. That’s an interesting thing that anyone listening could could maybe want to do, and thanks for calling in.

 

Sender 4  20:56

Hi, Sarah. I wanted your insight into something because it seems like you have a really wonderful and healthy relationship with going to therapy. And I have the opposite experience over the course of my life, here and there, I have been to three therapists. The first my grandparents dragged me to as a child, this therapist was a Christian therapist in a church, and the reason I was going to therapy was because I was molested as a five year old, and this woman basically said I am damaged goods and irreparable in my young adulthood, I saw a woman who, in our first session, after about a minute and 45 seconds, she basically broke it down that I am not deemed to be walking around this world unless I am heavily medicated. And the third one was a man who fell asleep during a number of my sessions. Jesus, there’s that also one of my best friends, who I grew up with, majored in psychology, is a counselor now, and is one of the biggest hypocrites that I know. And recently, I approached a group chat with our friends and said, I’m really, really struggling about what’s going on the United States right now. And she basically, point blank, told me to stop wallowing in my own anger, which I thought was such a repulsive response. So I have a long standing distrust with mental health professionals, and I wanted to see what your angle was and just your view on this. Thanks so much.

 

Sarah Silverman  22:24

Listen, there are tons of terrible therapists out there. There are tons of amazing therapists out there, just like in every field, but there are great ones who have dedicated their lives and their studies to this. Your job is to find the one that works for you. And again, we drive 10 different cars to see which car we want, the things that we really shop around and spend time to find the perfect one of this should be one of those things. It’s important. And I know you tried three times and they were all bad, and I can imagine that might be discouraging, but keep trying. And your friend who is a therapist who used that as a huge hypocrite. Listen, the cobbler son has no shoes. Your housekeeper’s house is a mess. It doesn’t mean that they are not good at what they do, because they’re not keeping their own house clean. You never know who knows. And when I say house clean, I mean therapy, shit. Yeah, um, your job is to find one that works for you. And there’s a lot of people out there, and there’s a lot of affordable options now, which is exciting. When I the one year I went to NYU, I went to a free therapist there. Also, you know, not that there’s anything, but, you know, had a cross necklace and was extremely judgmental of my lifestyle, and basically said I shouldn’t be so slutty. And I was like, even at 19, I was like, Yeah, bye. You know, for me, I have thrived with a therapist that is lit without judgment, who’s just teaching me ways of thinking and ways to see. And that works for me. Some people, it works when you have that you know, therapist that’s like, stop right there. What you need to do is tell it, you know, whatever. That’s not for me, but it might be for you. You need to find someone that works for you, but please commit to your mental health. Give up on the health workers that don’t work for you, but don’t give up on your mental health, because that’s your life. That’s your happiness. There is a little kid in. Side of you that needs unwavering care. So if you can find someone that helps you with those tools, do it and good luck, and I’m sorry for your shitty experiences. What else?

 

Lisa  25:18

Hi, Sarah, it’s your old friend, Lisa. I wanted to just reach out about friendship and how to know when it’s time to really end a friendship. I was diagnosed with cancer in 2022 it’s the type of cancer that is long duration, and you really need your friends around. So sorry. I have a friend who moved out of state. We met in 2011 we’ve been really close up until my diagnosis, and I really saw that shift and kind of a drop off in terms of responding to my texts and my calls. How do I know when it’s time to really end this friendship? I reached out maybe six months ago and asked her, Are we even friends anymore? And her response was, you know, she was really angry, and said, I don’t even know. Like, I’m not even going to respond to this. Like, how dare you even, you know, ask me that. So I was hurt, but, yeah, would love to know your thoughts on this. I’m sure you know, everyone’s kind of been there, but I don’t want to end this friendship, but I’m so hurt that somebody would choose not to, you know, check in more frequently, rather than less, given that I’m dealing with a health crisis, really. So thanks.

 

Sarah Silverman  26:45

Well, I’m sorry that she reacted that way. I’m sorry that you’re hurt by it. I’m sorry that when you approached her about it, she made it all about her and fought you on it. It’s, you know, hard for some people to just go, Oh my gosh, I’m sorry I made you feel that way. I that wasn’t my intention. I but this person may be doing the very best that they can with the life tools that they have, and you didn’t know that until that that friendship was challenged. And listen, different friends have different capacities that you know, to answer your question about, should I end this friendship that’s up to you, if it is not giving you anything anymore and it’s taking more than it’s giving, then, yeah, just, I guess, end that friendship. Listen friends, when challenges come up, you’re gonna see how they deal with stuff, and it’s gonna alter the landscape of that friendship. I would say, you know, different friends have different capacities, and they often don’t deal with stuff the way you want or need them to. And then you either adjust, you know, you can end the friendship if that’s what’s best for you, you can recalibrate your expectations of the friendship and love them for what they do bring to the friendship, and lower your expectations of what they can’t bring to the friendship. The change really comes from you in that way. You know, it’s kind of like when you’re dealing with your parents and, you know, with stuff that is historical for you, the change has to come from you, right? Because you’re you’re not going to change your parents, most likely, so hopefully, you have friends or family members that are giving you the emotional support that you need. You know they say that in adversity, you find out who your real friends are. And I see there is truth to that, but I prefer to think of it in terms of you just find out to the degree in which your friends can be what you need, and there’s just less judgment in that. But you know, we can’t be all things to all people. She fell short for you, if the friendship gives you something, if, if seeing her every once in a while, or laughing at this show you both like, or the there are still connection points that feed you, then keep it just have lower expectations of that friend. I’m sorry she disappointed you, but truths were revealed as as our lives have more and more adversity, you know, and and this is just the. This is just how it is. You know, you don’t have to stay friends with her. You can stay friends with her and expect less. There are a lot of options. So it’s okay to be disappointed and take care of yourself, however that looks for you. But you have more options than just ending the friendship or you can what else?

 

James  30:20

Sarah Silverman, this is your friend James, calling from sunny LA, I guess I’m not calling act. This isn’t really a call, and it’s raining today. Actually, recently, on your podcast, said something that kind of like, whoa, popped my eyes open, or just kind of made a little light bulb go off. You describe, you use the word relationship, but like, as an idea, or like, a noun, you’re like, oh, well, that’s relationship. You know, like people say, well, like, oh, that’s love. And for some reason, I feel like it just makes so much more sense than the word love to me. Like, relationship, where did you come? What can you just speak to that I don’t know? Like, what is relationship? What is love? You know, if you can just figure that out really quick for all of us. Second part question, this is a twofer. Did you ever get any more? Did you ever see more of that guy that fucked the couch and said your name like there was this guy that was like a couch fucker? Anyway, so what is love into couch fucker? Update, thank you. We love you. Goodbye.

 

Sarah Silverman  31:41

This is a very crazy two part question. First of all, I don’t know this may be one the terms of the word relationship and how I used it. This may be one of those things where, like, like art, what you inferred from what I said may have had more meaning than what I said, or or more meaning than my intention, or I don’t know, I don’t remember what you’re referencing, but I do know that I have learned from my therapist and and other therapists before, the one I see Now, that where they will say, like, when you’re in relationship, like, without saying our relationship, you’re in relationship. And I see that more as like you’re participating in a dynamic with an other, you know, like it’s a team sport. But when you said like, you’re saying relationship, like it’s a noun, but relationship is a noun, my darling. But anyway, I think I know what you mean. When I say like you’re in relationship, that’s kind of a I’ve heard that in therapy, and I gleaned it. And I always love, I love that, like, whether you’re talking about relationship, there I go. Look at that, or art, you know, even or art, you know, your perception and the way in which you are framing this thing informs how you experience it. Your entire happiness depends on it, perception, perspective, the frame in which you see things. And I always talk about that book, and I still don’t know how to say his name, by John Berger or Berger B, E R, G, E R, called ways of seeing. It’s about looking at art, but it’s really about everything. And I think it’s very cool. But yeah, my look, my dad would come visit us. You know, there’s three of us, sisters that live out here, and he would, you know, spend the day with one of us while we did just like shitty, boring errands, you know. And we’d always laugh, because by the end of the day, he’d be like, what a day, what a fucking blast, you know, just like, had the best time and like, why did he feel that way at the end of the day? It’s not because he loves going to Ross Dress for less or the Verizon store, or to return a broken blender with us, you know, or come with us to get our car smog checked. No, it’s because he loved spending time with us, however that looked and what a way to live. You know, what a way to live, as for the guy who made me bespoke porn, no, never saw any of his work again. And there was a very odd thing about it, which, when I saw the porn to catch you up, I mentioned a few. I mentioned what my search words were at the time when I was on Howard Stern, and it was very niche. It. Like, guy fucks mattress, comma, verbal. And then I’ve talked about on this podcast, because this, this is where I first talked about it. Actually, months later, I was, you know, home alone, and I thought, you know, maybe I’ll masturbate. And I searched those search words, and, you know, only a few videos come up. It’s very niche, and a new one came up, and I watched it. And when the guy, he was like, fucking the side of his mattress like a pocket pussy. There’s always a pile of laundry somewhere in the shot as well. I don’t know what that has to do with anything, but as he was coming, he yelled out my full name, Sarah Silverman, and I had a heart attack. I was like, I thought he could see me, whatever a second, but I realized he must have listened to Howard Stern and then made one of these. And I did find it. So that was incredible. And I’ve talked about and everything. But here’s the thing that is really odd is I was like, Oh my God, this person made porn just for me. I can’t believe it. And I clicked on, like his home page, and his avatar was like that cartoon, like propaganda from the Holocaust Jew, like a drawing of, like an old Jewish man with a big nose, like gripping money in his hands. And it was very odd and a little bit scary. But what do you know? I’m seeing some shocked faces.

 

Amy  36:33

That is an insane story.

 

Sarah Silverman  36:36

It’s crazy. Yeah, I feel honored. I mean, listen, I had, I had just gotten a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and this Trump debt, but.

 

Amy  36:46

I just have one more follow up question.

 

Sarah Silverman  36:47

Yes.

 

Amy  36:48

So you never, did you ever search again? Did you ever get more content from him?

 

Speaker 1  36:54

I haven’t, but I don’t know what I think I looked and it wasn’t there anymore, or I couldn’t, let’s see, let me go to my what’s it called? Wait, what did I say? Guy fucks couch? Comma, I’m on to new things. Comma, verbal, search. Oh, there’s a whole lot. There’s a whole slew of new ones, but I mostly now get gay porn because that’s what I’ve been watching lately. Because I worry about the woman in straight porn, so I just do gay porn, and then I worry less, anyway, listen, if that guy is listening or number he probably isn’t, but please reach out, go to speakpipe.com/theSarahSilvermanpodcast, and leave a message. I have literally 1000 questions for this person.

 

Sarah  37:57

Hey, Sarah. It’s your best friend, Sarah calling from North Carolina. I’m Jewish, and one of my good Jewish friends, and I have a running joke that I think it’s funny. And I feel like you might think it’s funny because you kind of had, like, a for lack of better word, fucked up sense of humor that I enjoy. And so there are mine comp jokes, which let me explain. So like, for example, no explanation. My name being Sarah, and having a list is mine comp or, you know, after you brush your teeth and you’re laying in bed and you already got your retainers in, and then you’re hungry, that’s Mein Kampf, or Kanye being an anti Semite and loving Hitler. Mein Kampf. I don’t know what do you think? And do you have any Mein Kampf jokes that you can think of. I personally think it’s funny. I mean, you know, we got to take it back, not take it back, but like, we might as well fucking laugh, and I don’t know, like your struggle, okay, be for real. Anyways, Happy Hanukkah. Love you. Saw you in Durham. It was great.

 

Sarah Silverman  39:19

Yes.

 

Sarah  39:21

Bye.

 

Sarah Silverman  39:23

Uh, well, I did have a I had a whole bit on that, my last special about mine. Conf, I don’t really remember, but maybe we can, maybe we can play the clip here. That’s what mine. Conf, means my struggle. That’s what Hitler’s book is called, mice to ruggle. That’s what Mein Kampf means, mice to ruggle. Is there a more Jewish sounding book than actual Hitler’s book? Should I call this special my struggle?

 

Sybil  40:08

Hey, Sarah, this is Sybil. I am calling you with a question. I have really small breasts, and I don’t really need to wear a bra, but I always feel like I should, or I always do put on a bra when I go out in public, because I feel like I’m over sharing if I don’t wear a bra, I feel like I’m inviting something. I guess maybe part of it is protective, but I don’t know, it feels a little like I’m editing myself. I don’t know, but it just seems like it would become. Trouble. So, yeah, I’m curious what you think of that. Like I’m like, Am I just like, I should be free, or you should be am I taking myself because of the world? Is the world? So anyway, I’m curious if you have any thoughts, and I just want to say thank you for all that you are and do and among those things, I discovered your podcast because I hear my girlfriend laughing hysterically in the kitchen listening to it, and that just makes me so happy. So thank you.

 

Sarah Silverman  45:35

Well, thank you, Sybil. Um, yeah, this is just thinking about this kind of makes me mad. I would go, not at you, obviously, but at the patriarchy. I would go with what’s most comfortable, whatever that is for you, physically and emotionally. And I’m guessing you mean that if you don’t wear a bra, you could see your nipples poking out, and I fucking hate this, but if you’re out at a bar or something, you will be self conscious or or rightfully aware that, you know, like straight men may comment or stare, and that feels, it’s such a violating feeling, and I’m guessing that’s What you mean when you say the world around us. And I want to say, Fuck them, free the nipple, blah […] but if it will make you feel self conscious, if your porcupine needles will be up, then that is not more comfortable for you. You know, if you feel self conscious or you feel unsafe, that’s not the most comfortable decision, you know, but it’s it’s not right. I mean, that you’re being made to feel this way, that society makes us feel this way, you know. Maybe the easy fix is to not wear a bra and put band aids of your nipples, which I know that some people with small breasts will do that, basically like or like they make little nipple covers. Now, I mean, it’s basically like pasties that burlesque strippers used to wear, you know, but the fucking sexualization of the female nipple is such an odd thing. I mean, you know, we see men’s nipples sticking through their shirts all the time. And full disclosure, I usually do make a joke to my guy friends, in which that is the case, yeah, like I’m being a hypocrite. But also it’s different, because it doesn’t make them feel unsafe.

 

Amy  47:41

I have some input here. Yes, as a small, titied woman with prominent nipples.

 

Sarah Silverman  47:47

Yes, that’s right, I do that are like penises in their sensuality,

 

Amy  47:54

My mom has been listening to this show religiously. So yes, mom, but I, I’m a big fan of wearing, like a non cupped bra, like, sort of like a bra, let so it’s less restrictive, like, it’s more of, like a layer, a protective layer, but then I don’t have, like, the constrained, the overly constrained thing of like an underwire bra, which is totally unnecessary.

 

Sarah Silverman  48:20

Really, so that, you know, my mom stopped wearing a bra, very like when I was, like, born, or our little somewhere in the 70s, and she would wear a tank top underneath her. She just wore a tank top under her shirts. And that’s what she did. That’s brilliant. I wear a bra. I I hate this underwire bra that I wear every day, but it’s just it fits me just right, and it hoists my boobs up, and it there’s no padding, which I don’t like. I kind of like a nipply, the promise of a nipple in there, personally, but I totally get it, but I wear a bra to sleep in because I have big, heavy Jewish boobs that are like, think about like Rory goes well, I have balls that are hanging between my legs. And you know what? That’s an excellent point. I can’t imagine that that seems so uncomfortable to me, and they’re like, pendulous, you know, like they’re just hanging and dangling by skin, like my boobs, and you can see over time how they’re, like, heavy. Anyway, what’s my point? Oh, so I like to wear a very soft, nothing kind of bra to sleep in, because I sleep on my side, and if they’re, if they’re loose, my boobs are just like, hang to the side. Anyway, um.

 

Amy  49:54

I just, I have a couple of thoughts here, Jamie, one. You know. I don’t know what the proper term is for these ribbed tank tops that are typically designed for men. They they used to have a derogatory.

 

Sarah Silverman  50:09

Yes, they’re called beaters, right?

 

Amy  50:12

Well, wife pleasers now, but they were beaters. Men are, are meant to wear those for I feel a very similar reason is like, to, like, protect, like, keep a, it’s for sweat. B, I think it’s for nipple.

 

Sarah Silverman  50:30

Yeah, they wear it under T shirts or under their shirts, yeah, under their bundles. I love a six pack of Fruit of the Loom.

 

Amy  50:38

I wear one every day.

 

Sarah Silverman  50:39

Yeah, they’re the best.

 

Amy  50:40

I only wear. I have, like, packs and packs of black ones, and I wear them under everything I don’t have it on today. It’s also a good layering.

 

Sarah Silverman  50:47

Great layering.

 

Amy  50:48

So, like, if you don’t want to wear bra on, I until I probably didn’t have boobs until my, like, late 30s. I was flat. It was very weird.

 

Sarah Silverman  50:59

Crazy surge of boob growth as a full adult.

 

Amy  51:02

It was very odd. So I never really needed a bride. Just wore it because it felt like just comfortable to have another layer. So I often would wear those pleasers. My family calls them hempies, which is the Dutch word.

 

Sarah Silverman  51:20

Yeah, they used to be called wife beaters and people and which is so horrible, horrible for women and horrible for Italian culture, which is basically what it comes from, like, it’s just like Italian men, I think made them. It’s all so crazy. I don’t know that.

 

Amy  51:36

it’s just Italian. I think there’s a lot of cultures that wear those because there is also, like, a large, there’s a large swath of culture that wears those in Los Angeles when swimming.

 

Sarah Silverman  51:49

Yes, true, but um, yeah, I don’t. Maybe that’s me being Italian, uh, bigoted or something, although my love is Italian, but, um.

 

Amy  52:03

As is mine, but he doesn’t wear this.

 

Sarah Silverman  52:05

I thought it was always kind of a, kind of like a anyway, all this to say, yes, a wife pleaser, or whatever it’s called. Now, I buy a bunch of ribbed tank tops from Haynes or Fruit of the Loom. They’re cheap, they look great, and they hold you in and they will cover any of that. That’s a great idea. Now, this one that I wear to sleep, that you could wear. I love it. It’s called The Calvin Klein women’s Invisibles. Comfort, seamless, lightly lined V neck, bralette, bra.

 

Amy  52:44

I don’t know me that link.

 

Sarah Silverman  52:45

I love putting there’s not it feels like a second skin. Well, there you go. Myriad options. Hi, yo, you’re right, what else?

 

MJ  52:57

Hi, Sarah, it’s your friend. MJ, I am 43 and possibly going through my midlife crisis. I’ve run a daycare for about 18 years, working 55 hour weeks for all 18 of those years, I’m just ready to be done working and just be a trophy wife. My husband does not support that decision, for some strange reason, I have three busy teenagers who I really enjoy, going to all of their activities and helping with, volunteering for all the things that they do. But I just want to be done working. I don’t have a hobby that I can turn into a thing job, and I just want to spend my days hiking, visiting museums, maybe sitting around with my cat. What words of motivation do you have for a midlife crisis?

 

Sarah Silverman  53:45

I need more information. I mean, listen, that sounds amazing. You’re only 44 I don’t know if you can do it. You should do it. Why does your husband not support that decision? I’m assuming it’s because you can’t afford it. You need two incomes coming in. I mean, listen, you have a full time job just raising three teenagers. We know that that sexism, historically in this country, that like, that’s a full time job that should be paid, and it’s just call, it’s just, it’s, you’re not, um, you’ve been working way more than full time for 18 years with your three teenagers, while working more than full time at your job a few as a if you as a family can afford going to a single income family, then why not? You should do that. But if you can’t afford it, then there’s your answer, boy, this country’s this country is fucked when there’s no then when you work a 40 hour week and can’t support a family. Is not how it is, another country. Is I always think of Bhutan. Bhutan is a country I’ve never been to that I listened to Jason Isaacs on Andy Cohen’s podcast, and he had gone there because when they were shooting white lotus in Thailand, that he and his wife, like, took a vacation there. And he said it was the greatest country he’d ever been to. And he said something that I actually knew, which is, they measure success by gross national happiness. And you probably don’t meet many people from Bhutan because they don’t want to leave. It would be my guess, you know. And I actually know of Bhutan because, like a prince from Bhutan went to my high school like they and I looked up like a lot of, they have kings there, but I they also have, like a democracy, I believe. And I all these people go to, like, New England for their schooling, I guess. But we knew him. We called him Wang Chuk, and I’m so curious about that now Bhutan, but yeah, they’re onto something. There is all I’m saying. If you still need to be bringing in money, then maybe you can work less hours. Maybe that’s a happy medium. But I don’t know what you know. Listen, prioritize hiking and the stuff that you know fortifies you in your free time, right? That’s all I got. Good luck. What else?

 

Steven  56:34

Hi, Sarah, it’s your best friend Steven. Just kidding. We haven’t met, but I hope we do someday. I’m a huge fan of yours, and I’ve been a huge fan since Jesus is magic. I was in high school then I watched it. It like completely blew my mind. I thought it was the funniest thing I’d ever seen. I even made my ringtone the song I love you more, which my personal challenge was that if my phone rang, I had to rush to answer it before the lyrics really went south.

 

Sarah Silverman  57:01

Yeah, it does not get today’s work.

 

Steven  57:04

My question for you is, on the album of Jesus’s magic, there’s a song. I think this is probably, like a deep cut, a song called so great. And I really love the song, but it’s like, almost more a serious song than a comedy song, at least that’s my interpretation of it. Yeah, I don’t remember it actually being in the special being in the special itself, not if it was, I think it must have been like a deleted scene or something. So I’m just curious where that song came from, and if there’s any story behind it. Thanks. Love you.

 

Sarah Silverman  57:31

Great question. We added, we had a bunch of new songs. In addition to the songs from Jesus’s magic, we added a bunch of songs to the album, and that song, it’s so interesting that you asked about that my sister Laura wrote that song years years before, about a guy that she knew in Boston. And I always loved that song. She writes such beautiful some often funny, and often just beautiful songs. And I always  loved it, and I have a lot of guilt around that song on the album, because I loved it, and we wanted to put more songs than were just on the show on the album, and what, whatever the powers that be said that I should be singing the lead on it, and Laura should sing back up, because it’s my album, my stand up, whatever. And I should have fought that, but I just said, well, Laura, do you want to do this song? I mean, I’ll sing the main part and you sing the harmonies in the background. She was like, okay, and it was her song. And years later, you know, I brought it up to her years later, I had so much guilt around it, and she honestly could not have cared less, but I just don’t think it was the right thing to do. And she is, you know, we both write songs, but Laura writes beautiful songs, and she’s a brilliant writer in general. She’s maybe my favorite writer ever. Her prose is stunning, and we sang a really funny country song of hers that she wrote on NPRs live from here. That kind of the show that kind of took over for Prairie Home Companion that was so good I can’t believe they don’t do them anymore, but you probably Google Sarah Silverman, Laura Silverman, live from here or something. It was a really funny country song she had written, and she sang it, and I sang the harmonies, but she’s just so talented. She’s a brilliant writer and she’s a an amazing singer. If you are a fan of the Sarah Silverman program, there’s an episode, and I don’t know which one it is, where, at the end of it, she sings, Oh Happy Day, and it’s. Fucking amazing. She’s She’s incredible. I have it on my phone, actually, maybe I’ll play like a second of it. To like every morning, write, make up a song and send it to me, my sister, and dad, wherever you are in space time we are winding down. This is a part of the podcast. When I say, send me your questions, your comments, your thoughts, your proclamations, your opinions. Go to speak pipe.com/theSarahSilvermanpodcast. That speakpipe.com/theSarahSilvermanpodcast. And please subscribe, rate and review wherever you listen to podcasts. That’s that helps us, and if you haven’t yet, now is a great time to subscribe to Lemonada Premium. Just hit the subscribe button on your Apple podcasts, or if you’re on another podcast app, you can head to Lemonadapremium.com for bonus content you will not want to miss. That’s lemonadapremium.com.

 

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